Monday, September 29, 2003
KJR MARINERS ROUNDTABLE
On the Mitch show this morning, they had a Mariner roundtable with Mike Gastineau, Mitch, Steve Sandmeyer, Bill Krueger, Softy, and David Locke. I'll post more points as I remember them. I did email Mitch to ask if there was any way they could put the roundtable into RealPlayer or WinMP format so it'd be online and ready to listen to, as it was very informative.
Some points--
--If Jeff Cirillo walks onto the field next April as a Seattle Mariner, we will truly know how powerless Bob Melvin is. You know like hell that he doesn't want to play him. One quote from one of the guys, "if Cirillo plays next year, Howard Lincoln will have some players beating down his door like Lou Piniella never did."
--No real explanation was given for why the Benitez trade happened. He was put into one real pressure situation (what they supposedly got him for) the whole time (Texas game) and gave up a bomb to Palmeiro. They obviously had no confidence in him. And what went the other way in the trade? The guy with four World Series rings and some swagger and some attitude. Gas mentioned that what happened around the Benitez and the trade deadline have to be explained. Left-handed relievers were zipping around the country like nobody's business around the deadline, and the Mariners managed to not get a single damn lefty reliever. Softy also said that management told Gillick to be out of town during the deadline. Lots of stuff has to be explained.
--Whether Garcia comes back depends on what version of Gil Meche you think you're going to get; the one who was almost al All-Star in the first half, or the one that lost 10 of 15 decisions down the stretch. Also, there's NO WAY IN HELL that you're gonna get at least 180 innings out of FIVE STARTING PITCHERS. So with this logic, Garcia eats innings, so keep him. Of course, there's head games, we know that. Gas brings up that other than June (and probably another one of his good stretches), Garcia was 7-9 and crap.
--You're not keeping Sanchez.
--Bill Krueger did mention what kind of players the Mariners obviously cater to. The two players he mentioned as having a good possibility to be here: Kazuo Matsui, RICHIE SEXSON (the word is out, kids!).
--It's going to be hard to move Cirillo's contract. Bill suggested a Mike Hampton-type deal for the player they would get in return. The teams may match the salary in the first year, but the Mariners would take the salary the rest of the way. Krueger's possibilities included Cirillo and a young arm or something for...a Larry Walker or a Ken Griffey Jr.
I'll post more later if'n I remember stuff. Probably stuff about Cameron and the bullpen.
Some points--
--If Jeff Cirillo walks onto the field next April as a Seattle Mariner, we will truly know how powerless Bob Melvin is. You know like hell that he doesn't want to play him. One quote from one of the guys, "if Cirillo plays next year, Howard Lincoln will have some players beating down his door like Lou Piniella never did."
--No real explanation was given for why the Benitez trade happened. He was put into one real pressure situation (what they supposedly got him for) the whole time (Texas game) and gave up a bomb to Palmeiro. They obviously had no confidence in him. And what went the other way in the trade? The guy with four World Series rings and some swagger and some attitude. Gas mentioned that what happened around the Benitez and the trade deadline have to be explained. Left-handed relievers were zipping around the country like nobody's business around the deadline, and the Mariners managed to not get a single damn lefty reliever. Softy also said that management told Gillick to be out of town during the deadline. Lots of stuff has to be explained.
--Whether Garcia comes back depends on what version of Gil Meche you think you're going to get; the one who was almost al All-Star in the first half, or the one that lost 10 of 15 decisions down the stretch. Also, there's NO WAY IN HELL that you're gonna get at least 180 innings out of FIVE STARTING PITCHERS. So with this logic, Garcia eats innings, so keep him. Of course, there's head games, we know that. Gas brings up that other than June (and probably another one of his good stretches), Garcia was 7-9 and crap.
--You're not keeping Sanchez.
--Bill Krueger did mention what kind of players the Mariners obviously cater to. The two players he mentioned as having a good possibility to be here: Kazuo Matsui, RICHIE SEXSON (the word is out, kids!).
--It's going to be hard to move Cirillo's contract. Bill suggested a Mike Hampton-type deal for the player they would get in return. The teams may match the salary in the first year, but the Mariners would take the salary the rest of the way. Krueger's possibilities included Cirillo and a young arm or something for...a Larry Walker or a Ken Griffey Jr.
I'll post more later if'n I remember stuff. Probably stuff about Cameron and the bullpen.
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